Desperate For Attention

Why The F*ck Didn't These Bands Get Huge?

How come Phantom Planet didn’t go supersonic after "California" and The O.C.? What happened to Fountains of Wayne after "Stacy's Mom"? Why didn't The Sounds become international superstars, even when Dave Grohl couldn't stop gushing about them? 
Chris and Leslie examine some of the greatest almost famous Millennial rock bands, with plenty of behind-the-scenes intel from their days at Alternative Press, Billboard, and backstage watching Jason Schwartzman endure bad Rushmore dad jokes. 
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How To Land A Book Deal: Part 2

So, you’ve got a million-dollar idea for a book and, after writing a killer proposal, you snag a literary agent that finds a publisher to release your tome into the world. Now what?
Chris and Leslie talk about each of their experiences writing — and editing! — a manuscript, deciding on illustrations and photography, marketing and promoting the finished product, and making the eventual book release a must-read event. 
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How To Land A Book Deal: Part 1

From sticky notes to bidding wars, Chris and Leslie go behind the scenes of the publishing industry and explain how they got their books published. Find out what it’s REALLY like to write a book proposal, get a literary agent, pitch to publishing houses, and sign on the dotted line of that coveted contract.
And if you’re just interested in our adventures interviewing emo bands, there’s plenty of that, too! 
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Does This Mean We Forgive The GRAMMYs?

With Music’s Biggest Night behind us, Chris and Leslie discuss the impact of Beyoncé FINALLY winning Best Album of the Year, Kendrick Lamar sweeping half the Big 4 categories with his revenge anthem, and Chappell Roan offering the Academy some savage critical feedback with her Best New Artist acceptance speech. 
The winners! The losers! The fashun!
This year, the 2025 GRAMMY Awards attempted to right some past wrongs, but we’re not fully convinced the efforts represent true progress versus flashy performance.
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And The Winner Is

It’s award season, and hosts Chris Payne and Leslie Simon delve into Timothée Chalamet’s play for Oscar voters’ hearts on SNL, Billie Eilish and Chappell Roan’s chances of sweeping the big GRAMMY categories, Doechii's shot at Best New Artist, and one very bold Super Bowl prediction. 
The millennials they are, Chris and Leslie at least deserve some participation trophies for naming a bunch of Robbie Williams songs and sitting through all ten hours of The Brutalist. 
 
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Brand New Reunites: So What's Next?

In December 2024, Brand New quietly played its first show in seven years. Can fans call it a comeback?
Hosts Chris Payne and Leslie Simon call on their decades of experience covering Brand New and the scene that birthed them to discuss the band's future in light of the accusations that caused them to abruptly retreat from the spotlight in 2017. 
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Mastering The Y2K Aesthetic Feat. Colette Shade

Colette Shade, author of the new book "Y2K: How the 2000s Became Everything (Essays On The Future That Never Was"—AND OUR PODCAST'S FIRST GUEST!—joins us to debate Millennials vs. Zoomers online, what fast-food menu items and mall stores had the most Y2K energy, and how Meghan Trainor would’ve fared in the TRL era. 
For more information about Colette, her book “Y2K,” and upcoming tour dates, check out coletteshade.com.
 
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6 Things To Leave In 2025

Tired of being demure and mindful? Feel like tearing your hair out whenever someone maps out their 12-step skincare routine? Can't bear to explain ChatGBT to your clueless boss?
Whether it's A.I. or GRWM, find out which trends Chris and Leslie hope will die in 2025.
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Scene & Overheard With Chris & Leslie

Co-hosts Chris Payne and Leslie Simon debate whether Gracie Abrams beat the nepo-baby allegations after her debut appearance on Saturday Night Live. 
Then, is Chappell Roan the runaway winner of Best New Artist at the 2025 Grammy Awards, or do any of her fellow nominees—like Sabrina, Shaboozey, and RAYE—stand a chance?
Finally, Chris and Leslie daydream of the unique beauty of a suburban Target.
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The Ultimate NPC Music Playlist

On Episode 3 of their new podcast DESPERATE FOR ATTENTION, co-hosts Chris Payne and Leslie Simon explore the genre of NPC music, which can often be heard piping through your local CVS or Target speakers.
It’s those soulless pop songs everyone likes— and no one likes. 
Like “The Middle” by Zedd, Maren Morris, and Grey. Or “Happy” by Pharrell. Or anything Meghan Trainor’s ever written. 
Where does your favorite least-favorite artist rank on our ultimate NPC music playlist?
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